M3 BARGAIN!!!!! another ebay....

[Kay323]

i thought i had seen it all when i was looking for a pioneer avic on ebay - all those buy it for £40 crap etc etc.

CLICKY (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-BMW-M3-E46-evolution-Carbon-BLACK_W0QQitemZ4651147740QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)

[huzi7]

SCAM!!!

Dont even think about bidding

[Chaos]

FFS there's a new one every day now, I'm getting to the point where I'm just going to have a template to send off to Ebay CS about these.

[Kay323]

SCAM!!!

Dont even think about bidding



nah mate, i aint bidding... but surprised to see other people bidding, how stupid can you be thinking your going to get a £20+ k car for £5k!

should email the seller for collection ;)

[Chaos]

the stupidity level of some people is the only reason that these vermin still exist. Frankly I should stop reporting these and just let people lose their money, natural selection and all that, eventually they'd run out of morons to victimise and then they'd have to go out and get a job.

[Dirty Black]

Pure nonsense, ebay really dont give 2 ish's wot goes on. Criminal.

[Chaos]

Pure nonsense, ebay really dont give 2 ish's wot goes on. Criminal.No, that's why they regularly pull auctions that get reported to them on the same day. :rolleyes: They can't police every auction that goes up, can't blame them for that.

[Dirty Black]

I know they can't police them all, but boy, they could easily make more of an effort. They must be aware of the amount of fake items and scams on there. Plus anytime I've dealt with thier 'resolution centre' its been utter cack, including paypal fo course. They must be raking it in.

[Chaos]

How could they easily make more of an effort to police 14.5 million auctions per day (that's US/UK alone, by the way)? I'm not saying they're saints, I'm just saying you need to get real and think about the levels that they're working to. Peoples' experiences do vary, I can't speak for your cack ones, all I can go on is that I reported 4 fraudulent auctions this week and all 4 were removed the same day, 1 of them less than 2 hours after I sent the report. That seems pretty swift to me.

[pete]

chaos- that fair, ive used the resolution centre before and its been pretty decent.

just waiting for anothe bargain M3, gonna offer some magic beans in exchange ;)

[Chaos]

You'll struggle mate, you may have to offer them a Schumacher biro to bait the deal. ;)

[h4pry]

On a similar note I think ebay should have volunteer 3rd party moderators. Not for everything but just for specific products. The moderators should be affiliated in some way to the brand or company they protect.

For example: The search Breitling chronograph brings up hundreds of results of which 50% of them are fake products.

It is also in Breitling’s interest to have these fakes removed from ebay because they are harmful to the brands image. Therefore ebay could approach Breitling and offer the service of having a moderator (within Breitling) the power to remove fraudulent listings. It would need to be a Breitling employee or specialist as he / she would be the only person able to instantly recognize a fake watch from a photograph. Furthermore this moderator would only be given the power to remove items under a certain search criteria, in this case keywords : - Breitling Chronograph

This could be implemented of many major products and not just the watch industry.

Thoughts?

[Dirty Black]

I am real, fair enough - report thier auctions but we shouldnt have to. If it was once in a while or the odd scam it would be a different story.

I could spend the day on ebay reporting scams and fakes and thier would still be hundreds if not thousands on there.

If you think they are doing all they can to police thier site then your mistaken. Ebay are allowing these 'auctions' to take place and no doubt are making huge profits some of which could be put back in to better policing.

Anyroad, as you say, its only the morons getting caught but its still a shame.

[Chaos]

So, if you could spend the day on Ebay finding fake auctions and there would still be hundreds if not thousands on there, what makes you think that they could spend the whole day on there and find them all (that's all of them of the 105-110 million auctions alone on .com and .co.uk)? Luck? Magic? Mr Ebay's Amazing Dodgy Auction Finding Machine? Your logic is flawed, it comes down to a battle of quantity over manpower, and they just wouldn't be able to catch them all. And, on a practical level, if you think that they'd risk the whole business just to make a few quid in the short term then I believe it's you that's mistaken. Still, each to their own opinion, eh.

Hapry, the idea is good, but it wouldn't work in practice. The whole thing would be too complicated to set up, require too much admin to manage, and the process that gets an auction pulled involves investigating the Ebay account which nobody but Ebay themselves would be able to do. The theory is good, but I just don't see how they'd do it.

[Stock323iSaloon]

another one...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2002-51-Bmw-M3-Convertible-E46-Phoenix-Yellow_W0QQitemZ4651892695QQcategoryZ9837QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[Dirty Black]

My logic is never flawed. No body said they had to catch them all, just that they could easily put more resouces into it. If i can find hundreds, then they must be able to do better. Thats all, I'm not looking for perfection but an improvment must take place.

[Chaos]

LOL..

If one person can find hundreds then another person must be able to find thousands.
The public shouldn't have to report them, but you don't require that Ebay find all of them.
They can 'easily' put more resources into finding fraud, despite neither you nor I knowing how much they actually do do to find it, yet when you send in a report they react almost immediately which is far better than most companies seem to.

Makes zero sense, but your logic is never flawed http://sankeys.demon.co.uk/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif so it must be right, fair enough, I guess everyone else is wrong. Whatever. I'm sure it's not worth arguing about though.

The thing is, your last sentence actually raised an interesting issue. Nobody here knows what they can 'easily' do or what they can't, to suggest so is ill-informed, but a desire for improvement is what you want to see from anyone in their position so I would totally agree with that. The difference of opinion was in peoples' perceptions of where their starting point is - you think it's not good enough and I think it's pretty reasonable. It's only opinion though, they're like arseholes, everyone has them and most of the time they stink. http://sankeys.demon.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Dirty Black]

At the end of the day Ebay are ultimately responsible for everything they have on thier site. If you think e-bay are doing the best they can to stamp this type of thing out then i can say no more, but my logic... damn its always mighty fine :)