10mm spacers all round - advantages?

[J2D]

Was chatting to another M3 owner (alpina527 - Nice M3 mate, luv the intake!!) who has 10mm spacers fitted all round, apart from looking abit meatier, are there any other advantages of having these spacers? are they difficult to fit? (longer nuts) and how much am I looking at to do this?

Cheers guys

John

[Defector]

I believe a Fireman has done the same to his E39. The benefits are a wider track which gives less role and better cornering. It also brings the alloys 'out of the dark' so to speak so usually improves the look.

Down side is that the wider track will mean changes to the suspension geometry, which could cause premature tyre wear and extra stress on sussy components.

In addition, unless a hubcentric spacer is used it intrduces a further week point in the set-up by placing the whole weight of the car on the bolts and not shared with the hub.

[Doc Matt]

10mm is quite a space, less stress on a 5mm which i'm running on the fronts due to my BBK.

Roy will be able to sort you out with longer wheel nuts (and spacers i think)

:)

[daytonaviolet]

i got 10mm Rouge Engineering hubcentric spacers on all 4 corners. these came with longer lugs also. i put them on the fronts to clear my 380mm Brembo GT brakes. but for the rears, just put them on for a wider stance. i dont feel any negative adverse effects from putting on these spacers. if anything, the steering feels more sensative.

i got mine from here Zechhausen (http://www.zeckhausen.com/BMW/E46_M3.htm) [hiya

[marksg]

10mm is quite a space, less stress on a 5mm which i'm running on the fronts due to my BBK.

:)

Matt - where did you get your 5mm spacers - looked everywhere for hubcentric 5mm - in the end Roy sourced me some 10mm Eibach hubcentric spacers with extended wheel bolts (also to allow clearance on BBK)

J2D, As said elsewhere - definitely go for hubcentric.

Thanks, Gary

[phat///M3]

Are there any rubbing issues with a 10mm spacer on an M3 with a drop???

Thanks

oh btw you guys suck, you make me wanna mod more... :cool:

[alpina527]

You can't get hubcentric 5mm spacers. There are no rubbing issues with 10mm all round on 19s and Eibachs.

[daytonaviolet]

Are there any rubbing issues with a 10mm spacer on an M3 with a drop???

Thanks

oh btw you guys suck, you make me wanna mod more... :cool:
no rubbing with 10mm on the rears (275/30/39). i tried 12mm before and got some rubbing with passengers in the rear seats.

[peppernick]

I am running 5mm H&R non-hubcentric spacers at the rear (the lip on the original hub sticks out enough to catch the wheel, so no need for hub-centric spacers if you stick to 5mm thickness). BBS LMs ET37 (with the spacer, offset drops to ET32) with Goodyear F1 275/30/19. Rubbing only on fast corners (mostly trackdays) with rear paseengers. Otherwise, no problems at all.

[J2D]

This may sound stupid, but what is a hubcentric spacer?

[fireman]

This is a hubcentric spacer of the 15mm stylie
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/fireman69/947c2274.jpg
Had no issues with negative reports, and they look real nice..

[fireman]

And again

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/fireman69/DSC01389.jpg

[alpina527]

A hubcentric spacer is an aluminium spacer that has a bore on one side that sits on the original spigot. The other side has the same size spigot machined onto it to accept the wheel, thus giving a good central location.

The original spigot is 11mm long, so by allowing for the 15 degree x 5mm taper in a stock wheel, the spacer can be made to an absolute minimum thickness of 10mm.

As Nick says, his 5mm spacers are basically just a ring which leaves 6mm of the original spigot protruding. This is just enough to locate a wheel on. This assumes that the 15 degree taper is no longer than 5mm ie, 1mm location.

The bolts are also very important. Don't buy the 'Mickey Mouse' bolts from the local accessory shop. Have a word with Roy. I'm sure he can source some good quality bolts.

Here is a pic of my custom made EN24 bolts that have been heat treated to 'V' condition, then zinc plated and passivated. They are way over the top, but I like to make sure
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/Alpina527/bolts002Small.jpg

[Raja_SMGII]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7994/dsc01711mediumsg1.jpg

What inch spacers would you guys recommend to fill the arches running OEM CSL Wheels?

Thanks,
Raj

[peppernick]

10mm front, 7mm rear.

[Chaos]

10mm front, 7mm rear.
Totally agree. http://www.scions.org.uk/phpBB2/images/smilies/icon_yes.gif

[Raja_SMGII]

I'd be lost with you guys - many thanks :)
Going to drop Teddy an email now...

Cheers!

[bluebro]

I have Rogue Engineering 18mm spacers on the front and 10mm spacers on the rear. 18mm required for the BBK and the 10mm to even things up. Fully lowered on PSS9's and no rubbing at all. 235/265 tyre set up.

[Davidch]

I thought 15mm at the front and 10 rears where the best??

[hovis2000]

I,m running 10mm H&R spacers all round i find it handles just a bit better in corners or i would not know they are on there.

[Juber]

i will be getting some spacers with my new wheels to beef up the look!

I heard about issues about the spacer getting stuck to the hub after times? would the best advice be sumthing like copper slip when putting spacer on?

[Mud]

Do Eibach do 10mm spacers? Everywhere I have seen they only seem to have 5mm and 12mm.

[BigFas]

eibach I think DO do 10mm spacers, Roy sells them. If not, H&R definitely do as I have a set on mine to clear the BBK.

[Mud]

Ah ok I want to get the 10mm Eibach pro spacers all around on mine, will check out H&R info

[peppernick]

Eibach definitely does 10mm spacers, I have a pair on my car.

[Mud]

I heard about issues about the spacer getting stuck to the hub after times? would the best advice be sumthing like copper slip when putting spacer on?

Any advice on this from anyone?

[BigFas]

copper slip between spacer and hub and all is sweet. I have some if you need it bro

[Mud]

Nice one bro, will pop over tomorrow morning if ya dont mind