Twin Supercharger for E39 M5 610hp bolt on

[AlpinaAl]

NEW CA E39 M5 BI - COMPRESSOR "RA" CONVERSION


How does a true “bolt on” 610 HP at the crank sound to you.…. Interesting……. Just what you’re looking for……… Then this is for you.

Just released by …………… and offered first to you guys is the new “TWIN SUPERCHARGER KIT” for the E39 M5

This long anticipated kit is now a reality, and features twin Rotrex C30-74 with very discrete fitting and twin W/A intercoolers hidden in the original air boxes, All the electronics are featured with the kit and when mapped and sorted the kit gives and astounding 610hp at the crank for only 8 yes only 8hrs work.

We will be doing this entire kit for and INTRODUCTIONAL PRICE of only £5900 + VAT + SHIPPING. This price will be for a limited number only, after that the recommend retail will be around £8500 + vat + shipping…

We can also provide you with a suitable clutch and flywheel upgrade to go with this great kit.

If you would be interested in purchasing one of these kits at this great introductional price please PM or send an email and we will happy to discuss any further questions you may have.

Email: enquiries@ca-automotive.co.uk

We look forward to hearing from you

Roy / Alex
CA-AUTOMOTIVE LTD

[lee330sport]

Oh man, Tin is gonna be so happy [banana [banana

Get it done dude.

[Tin]

FCUK! :eek: :eek:
gimme gimme, sodd me wedding.. where do i sign.. :confused:
you have a pm/email/u name it.

[AlpinaAl]

FCUK! :eek: :eek:
gimme gimme, sodd me wedding.. where do i sign.. :confused:
you have a pm/email/u name it.


you have PM mate

just sign on the dotted line ;)

I wish my BMW to be very very fast
signed
TIN ...................................

[BigFas]

LOL. Tin is a pig in shite today :D

[Tin]

just sign on the dotted line

I wish my BMW to be very very fast
signed
TIN ...................................

lol.. have replied.


LOL. Tin is a pig in shite today :D
lol.. oh man, my life is completely messed up now.. what should i do.. :confused: postpone the wedding till next year? :p or take out a bigger loan.. lol

[scorcher]

Just go for a daytrip to Brighton as your honeymoon :D

[BigFas]

Tin.

Civil Ceremony at the local council office: £100
Food from the local takeaway for 30 people : £200
The look on your new bride's face when you whisk her away in a 610bhp monster: Priceless :D

[Tin]

Tin.

Civil Ceremony at the local council office: £100
Food from the local takeaway for 30 people : £200
The look on your new bride's face when you whisk her away in a 610bhp monster: Priceless :D

LOL.. just asked her about moving the date to next year, no answer, just slience..mmm..not looking good. :(

[peppernick]

The look on your new bride's face when you whisk her away in a 610bhp monster: Priceless
More like the look on her face when you whisk her wedding away from her in favour of a 610BHP monster :D


DO IT !

[Tin]

Sorry back ontopic...

Just been doing alittle research, This kit uses the Rotrex blowers, clicky (http://www.rotrex.eu.com/)

The fastest production car in the world, uses 2 of these babies to get to 242.5mph!!

koenigsegg CCR (http://www.koenigsegg.com/thecars/engineering.asp?engineering=2)

http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/engineering_engine2.jpg

http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/engineering_engine6.jpg

http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/engineering_rotrex_draw.jpg

Full car spec here (http://www.koenigsegg.com/thecars/index.asp?submenu=4)

Based on a 4.7 v8 engine, very very simlar to the BMW S62 V8. [read

[AlpinaAl]

Only the very best from the Swedes ;)

Tin dont worry make the honeymoon in Jersey mate, you can sleep in the spare room it'll be fine, I'll help you cut down on the costs of an expensive hotel

The right diff and box, a little light weight carbon for good measure and I'll have you eating Koenigsegg's for breakfast

Then just say "baby its the fast production car in the world beater, thats important" ;)

[Tin]

hahah, cheers mate.

Quick q, do you know if the 610@flywheel figure is a peak?ie is the kit capable of more power, but detuned for reliablity&driveablity. Intrigued by the intercoolers being mounted in the OEM airboxes... would have assumed that the rotrex blowers would have been mounted there (in a symmetrical format), and the intercoolers further down behind the foglights, similar to the Dinan S3 supercharged kit.

Anyidea how much power the oem gearbox can take?

cool, can't wait for the pics! [ok

[CA Automotive UK]

hi , roy here

in a word yes ...it is detuned .

Up to 700 - 750 bhp if your fit strengthened internals

also did i mention we now stock / offer RIGHT HAND DRIVE manifolds for M5 ?

regards

[Tin]

excellent.. RHD manifolds? are they Supersprint ones? if so, they are the very ones I have, as my car was the first in the world to have RHD Supersprint headers ;) I got the 1st production set, for them using my car for a month developing the system.

[CA Automotive UK]

yes they are , and what a diference !

we just finished all this on a customerts 1999 M5 :

- s/sprint headers and d pipes and 100 cell cats
- tubi cat back Rumori system
- temp sensor relocation
- celis front and rear lights
- Hid conversion ( our own , not crappy Hella :)
- Rogue power pulleys
- remapped fuel , ign and vanos curves
- Schrick cams


OH MY GOD DOES IT SHIFT .....AND THE SOUND [cool

TRYING TO TALK HIM INTO THE SUPERCHARGER NOW :)

by the way Tin , what suspension are you running ? I have a brand new set pss9 's sitting by my desk here ....goinmg a little cheap at £1400 all in ? any takers ?

Also Tin , have me and alex provided you all the info you have asked for on the charger kit ?

And yes ...sod the wedding IMO :D

(Only kidding Mrs Tin - to - be )

roy

[Tin]

yes they are , and what a diference !

we just finished all this on a customerts 1999 M5 :

- s/sprint headers and d pipes and 100 cell cats
- tubi cat back Rumori system
- temp sensor relocation
- celis front and rear lights
- Hid conversion ( our own , not crappy Hella :)
- Rogue power pulleys
- remapped fuel , ign and vanos curves
- Schrick cams
OH MY GOD DOES IT SHIFT .....AND THE SOUND [cool

TRYING TO TALK HIM INTO THE SUPERCHARGER NOW :)

by the way Tin , what suspension are you running ? I have a brand new set pss9 's sitting by my desk here ....goinmg a little cheap at £1400 all in ? any takers ?

Also Tin , have me and alex provided you all the info you have asked for on the charger kit ?

And yes ...sod the wedding IMO :D

(Only kidding Mrs Tin - to - be )

roy

Woah! whose car is this??? pretty much the same mods as me! woohooo [banana thats wicked.. any dyno plots??

Sound is awesome.. with the Tubi Rumori system, friggin hell that is gonna be LOUD!!! easy 100db's! lol

Suspension, I have the ACS DFC, (Last one ever made in the world :D ) infact was a LHD kit, which was converted slightly to fit my car, with its 3 modes of electronic damper settings, its great! [ok

But I think I know someone who may be interested in the PSS9's.. he's out of the country at the mo, but will txt him ;)

Yep, supercharger q's are cool, Roger and I will probably will give you guys a visit to talk about it, let me know once you get the dyno plots, pics of the install etc..

Cheers
Tin
ps:trying to sweeten an ok with the mrs...damn never had this issue before with mods..(ah the joys of bacholarhood) :p

[Durgesh]

ohhh TIN.. this is it bro!

Go for it....

Roy, you have to check it out his suspension one day it simply ROCKS.

Tin, your car deserves a SC, the question is are you going to be MAN enough to give it to her, ps. I am not talking about your wife.. LOL

Durgesh

[Ali_]

OMG Tin your thinking hardout not hard to see why, what an awesome wedding present!!!

[CA Automotive UK]

hi tin

will get back with pics and dyno asap , just waiting to get it on e mail .

That M5 we just finished belongs to a gentleman called Carl , i wont give out surname tho until i check with him its ok . Really nice guy actually , and he is on the forums at times . We will be doing power plot soon I hope , I am curious myself .

And yes it is LOUD ....... :eek:

yes the ACS suspension is pretty cool , but be warned they discontinued it couple years ago due to some problems with the electronic control units ...just a heads up for you .

Eibach are due to bring out the same thing ( pro - tronic ) later this year ; I believe the ACS electronic coilovers were bulit by Eibach but using japanese third party electronics and servos for the adjustment mechanism.

REGARDS

[CA Automotive UK]

HI

Also to let you know we are working on a warantee scheme to go with the M5 conversion , hope to have this sorted by next week .

Also , I have a 50 000 mile M5 engine and g box for sale , around £ 8 k , anyone interested ?

[Tin]

hi tin

will get back with pics and dyno asap , just waiting to get it on e mail .

That M5 we just finished belongs to a gentleman called Carl , i wont give out surname tho until i check with him its ok . Really nice guy actually , and he is on the forums at times . We will be doing power plot soon I hope , I am curious myself .
And yes it is LOUD ....... :eek:
yes the ACS suspension is pretty cool , but be warned they discontinued it couple years ago due to some problems with the electronic control units ...just a heads up for you .

Eibach are due to bring out the same thing ( pro - tronic ) later this year ; I believe the ACS electronic coilovers were bulit by Eibach but using japanese third party electronics and servos for the adjustment mechanism.

REGARDS

cool, any pics of carls motor? sounds sweet! ;)

Yep, DFC is discontinued, infact had my electronics module sent back to ACS in germany for them to repair just after it was fitted, but been ok ever since.
Yep, the springs are made by Eibach, and the dampers are by sachs racing, with the electronics inhouse at ACS (could've be outsourced too).

Cool, the Eibach -protronic system sounds wicked!! I'm sure Nick will be investigating it ;)

There's a few fair electronic suspension kits out there, hence not rocket science technology, but just whether there is a enough customer demand for it to be justified.

[BigFas]

Hmmmmmmm.

Will an M5 engine fit in an e46 engine bay?

How SICK will that be! E46 vert, m5 engine transplant with twin superchargers. I'm a cheapskate though, so it'll be standard brakes :D

[Tin]

Hmmmmmmm.

Will an M5 engine fit in an e46 engine bay?

How SICK will that be! E46 vert, m5 engine transplant with twin superchargers. I'm a cheapskate though, so it'll be standard brakes :D

lol.. that would be friggin mental man! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
dont forget a massive spoiler on the bootlid for downforce.. heheh [banana

[Chaos]

Hmmmmmmm.

Will an M5 engine fit in an e46 engine bay?

How SICK will that be! E46 vert, m5 engine transplant with twin superchargers. I'm a cheapskate though, so it'll be standard brakes :D
Haha I can imagine the look on the guy's face when Altwoods send round a driver to pick your ride up for it's next service and he turns the key... :eek: :D

[AlpinaAl]

Hmmmmmmm.

Will an M5 engine fit in an e46 engine bay?

How SICK will that be! E46 vert, m5 engine transplant with twin superchargers. I'm a cheapskate though, so it'll be standard brakes :D


To answer your question Fas

YES !!! no joke !!! we are able to supply a conversion, including headers etc so this all works. The kit is fantastic and............ well you can just imagine cant you. nothing like the howl of a V8 with a drop top [ok

So shall I put you down for the engine and gear box we have for sale :D ;)

Alex
Ca-Auto

[peppernick]

:d :d :d ...........

[BigFas]

LOL, holy crap!!

Man, if money was no option, I would do this in a heartbeat. I really would. Unless you guys have a "lay-away" program at £100/month with 0% interest ;)

[Afif]

imagine putting it in then supercharging it [bow [bow.

[Tin]

Fas.. go on.. u know u want too :D ;)

Back on topic..


features twin Rotrex C30-74 with very discrete fitting and twin W/A intercoolers hidden in the original air boxes, All the electronics are featured with the kit and when mapped and sorted the kit gives and astounding 610hp at the crank for only 8 yes only 8hrs work.


I'm interested to hear about the twin intercoolers mounted in the oem airboxe space. Where are the Rotrex blowers mounted? :confused:

is the 610hp crank figure quoted from a stock m5? ie oem exhaust/clutch/camshafts/ecu (except whatever is required by the supercharger) etc.

For comparison, some pics of other supercharged e39 m5's (abeit only one supercharger used). I know your waiting on pics of the new install etc from your supplier, hence take your time guys. [hiya


Dinan's S3 (http://dinancars.com/Series.asp?Series=15&Chassis=13&Model=57#1342)


pushes around 620hp with oem camshafts
pushes around 638hp with uprated camshafts+intakes

http://jasontang.virtuality.org/albums/bimmerfest2005/dinan_engine.sized.jpg

Discovery Automotive (http://www.discovery-automotive.com/portal/modules.php?name=Static_Content&id=30)

Mental 800hp+ machine (featured in this months BMWCar mag).
http://www.discovery-automotive.com/abdullam5/pict0129.jpg

[lee330sport]

So whats the verdict on the wedding then Tin.lol

You gotta get these done, your cars wicked as it is now, but with these babies.................. :cool:

Roy how much for the M5 engine installed if you take my 3ltr and SC etc? Pm me.

[peppernick]

Roy how much for the M5 engine installed if you take my 3ltr and SC etc? Pm me.

:D :D :D :D ............................. [ok

[Tin]

So whats the verdict on the wedding then Tin.lol

You gotta get these done, your cars wicked as it is now, but with these babies.................. :cool:

Roy how much for the M5 engine installed if you take my 3ltr and SC etc? Pm me.

lol.. just working out numbers at the moment.. but will have to wait for full info from roy/alex on the s/c kit before committing anything.

M5 engine in a 330 coupe.. would be wicked mate.. all the low torque from the S62.. in a slightly lighter more nimble shell.. beautiful! [cool

don't forget to do the brakes (defo allround with an S62/E46 combo) mate.. yellow calipers will look wicked on ya blackcoupe/black iforges.. top!

[AlpinaAl]

Lee

You know it makes sense ;)

Il pm you in a bit mate and let you know....... [ok

[CA Automotive UK]

hi guys

- racing dynamics do an installation and header kit to fit the M5 engine into E46 chassis :D
- cant do £100 a month fas , wish I could mate ......so sorry
- the 610 bhp conversion is based on standard M5 , yes
- pics and dyno plots very soon
- will pm you nick

[Tin]

thanks roy,

fas:how about this? defo should get some attention at the next HiN ;)

http://www.evosport.com/gallery/photos/events/europe_2002/essen_motorshow/86.jpg

[Afif]

its got one ugly center hood thing [thumbsdow

[Ali_]

u r all mad [bang but hell it sounds soooo good :D

[lee330sport]

Been thinking about that damn engine all night. :(

#Anyone wanna buy my 3ltr with Supercharger/gearbox and 3.46 Diff? Seriously#

[CA Automotive UK]

the discovery car apparently produces 540 at the wheels , which equates to around 650 at crank , not 800 ...? Or did I miss somethin ?

Still awesome of course ......

But for the money and spec would nt more power be expected ...??

[Tin]

the discovery car apparently produces 540 at the wheels , which equates to around 650 at crank , not 800 ...? Or did I miss somethin ?

Still awesome of course ......

But for the money and spec would nt more power be expected ...??

yes, thats correct according to the article in this month bmwcar, but those dyno figures where taken, when the engine hadn't been fully run in (needs another 1000miles) and was at 6200rpm with 10.5psi pressure... engine has been designed/built to go to 7500rpm and to 20psi....carrillo conrods,ported,polished heads, schrick cams etc.. in effect a full on complete rebuild of the engine with pretty much everything changed with uprated parts..

mega mega bucks, but then its a very unique car. I prefer the other blue car owned by Robert... he's gone for lightweight stuff... Brembo LeMans/OZ superleggra's, std ice setup etc.

incidently, good to see that Brembo GT kit can stop 600horses comfortably :D
the UUC Stg3 clutch handle the power and the full supersprint exhaust all play their parts :D [read

incidently both needed custom rear diff's and subframe strengthening.. Even Dinan's S3 (which has been in testing/development for 2yrs) requires subframe strengthening for this modest 620/638hp kit.

ps: The CF bonnet does look very tasty indeed on the black m5...mmmm :) [ok

[mysticm3]

oooohhhh how did I miss all this discussions, do it Tin, and take some revenge at next Santa Pod event! lol

[Ali_]

Been thinking about that damn engine all night. :(

#Anyone wanna buy my 3ltr with Supercharger/gearbox and 3.46 Diff? Seriously#


Lee that would be a hard sell wouldnt it and some mega money changing hands [hmm i know it would be worth it but really would it be worth it if u know what i mean. [read

[Tin]

oooohhhh how did I miss all this discussions, do it Tin, and take some revenge at next Santa Pod event! lol

lol.. yeah where dat audi rs6 go, n e55 merc.. lol :p
alll good having mega horsepower, but trouble is getting it down and out thru the rear wheels... :confused:

[Ali_]

If you could put Ali's spear wheel in the boot [banana

[Tin]

If you could put Ali's spear wheel in the boot [banana

haha, yep, get 4-5 spare wheels and stick em in the boot, or go the tart way and get a mega sound install done :D

[Tin]

Roy/Alex, is it based on the forthcoming offering from AA Tuning?

info here :AA Tuning - Twin E39 M5 supercharger project (http://aatuning.com/whatsnew/main.php)

http://aatuning.com/whatsnew/6big.jpg

http://aatuning.com/whatsnew/6b.jpg

http://aatuning.com/whatsnew/6c.jpg

From the pics, looks like the rotrex superchargers are mounted at the bottom, area inside the front wheel arch liners.. [read

cheers
tin

[Ali]

Tin,

No more spare wheels from me... running on run flats now! :mad:

As for the SC.... One word...

SICK!

:D :D :D :D :D

[lee330sport]

Lee that would be a hard sell wouldnt it and some mega money changing hands [hmm i know it would be worth it but really would it be worth it if u know what i mean. [read

Tuned M5 engine + light coupe shell = sick :cool:

Def worth it dude. ;)

[Tin]

Tuned M5 engine + light coupe shell = sick :cool:

Def worth it dude. ;)

correction... supercharged m5 engine + (stripped out) light coupe shell = :eek: :eek: with a big :D stuck permanently to ya face :p

[lee330sport]

correction... supercharged m5 engine + (stripped out) light coupe shell = :eek: :eek: with a big :D stuck permanently to ya face :p

+ wings = private jet :cool: :cool: lol

[CA Automotive UK]

HI TO ALL MEMBERS

here are some latest info points on the upcoming supercharger M5 system , including some answers to customers questions received .

It is based loosely on active's ; we will probably not be offering the Active system as our alternative is developed and mapped on a euro engine ..there are a few differences with the US spec cars that are cause for enough concern , including the mapping ; the USA kit fitted to a UK car will almost certainly require refining of the mapping and fuelling , particularlyat top end where it matters most .

Firstly please be aware that the kits will be fully tested before offering to the public , so earliest delivery will be no less than 6 weeks from date of this post .

At least one thousand kilometers of road and trackday testing will be put in on the test car over the next few weeks , following which the heads will be removed for inspection - plus running a similar setup even harder on the 540is (high boost configuration) - to ensure Rotrex SC quality is 100%.

We will not deliver anything until we are confident that we deliver 100% customer satisfaction.


What ancillary modifications are you recommending along with this s/c kit?
And how much would they be...?
Clutch kit - SPEC :-) , possible rear subframe reinforcement

Have you had anyone do any reliability trials? i.e. 6 months of driving and no problems.. ?
TÜV approval and reability trials currently in process, there is also a Air/Air Intercooled alternative in the pipeline .

Do you have any actual dyno print outs instead of plots on excel? my original dyno graph looks nothing like that one, in fact its totally linear.
Dyno was done on a Hoffman Dyno at Rotrex in Denmark -, we will do ROTOtest and DynoJet runs as we can.
We will also do a run at ESS own dyno just to annoy them this summer :-)
As this point this is what we have.

I'm very interested but i've spent a lot of money on the car lately, and would only go down this path if i felt it would really be reliable.
I understand your concerns read my initial toughts above.
we will also soon be announcing warantee details .


dyno graph below ...... damn NO its not

the dyno I have is in Excel , could someone tell me how I can post this up please ? thanks in advance

[BigFas]

e-mail the sheet to me Roy, I'll sort it out

[Tin]

Hi Roy,

thanks for the update, sounds good!

To upload the excel file, compress it in winzip, and then make up a new post, scroll down the browser window, and you should see a section/button called "Manage Attachments", click this and then upload the zipfile to the server.

Or you could email me the file and I'll upload it for all to see. [ok

cheers
Tin

[CA Automotive UK]

thanks to both Tin and Fas for that .

Tin I will email it to you if that s ok as I dont have zip on my pc

will do so now

thanks again

[Tin]

Thanks Roy, I've taken a screenshot and uploaded as a jpeg picture, easier for all to see, without the need to download/uncompress the file etc..etc.

can upload the original xls file to anyone who wants it, but is exact same info as pic below.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/p1turbo/ca-e39dyno.jpg


Very interesting indeed!!! the std m5 was a very good example 550Nm torque!! bmw's official specs are 394hp & 500Nm!

The Rotrex sc kit delivers 733Nm! NICE!! :D

[peppernick]

Impressive [ok

[CA Automotive UK]

many thanks Tin , appreciate the help . i tried to convert to jpeg but f...cked it up ! :)

yes 733 Nm ...can you imagine !! There will be chunks of road chucked up into the air as you go by :D

my turbo is about 550 - 600 and that sets my eyeballs into back of my skull ....cant imagine what thi sconversion and that old shape M6 we are doinf]g will be like ...

One thing pisses me off ....my 550 Nm sig will seem well pansy after your cars :( 20 psi here I come :D any of you with powerful telescopes out there ...keep an eye out for my pistons will you please :p

also can i just say ...its 11 pm and i am still gettinf replies from you lot .....TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS ..THIS IS MY JOB WHATS YOUR EXCUSE !!! :o

[peppernick]

its 11 pm and i am still gettinf replies from you lot
it's 12am dude, you're behind EvoTechnik's schedule :p

[CA Automotive UK]

damn it is midnite as well

ah well , another sexless nite for Roy , wife is either asleep or ready to do a Bobbit on me ....SEE HOW FAR I GO TO KEEP YOU LOT SERVED DAMN YOU ALL .

hello my beautiful right hand ...you are looking particularly attractive 2 nite ......

[Tin]

many thanks Tin , appreciate the help . i tried to convert to jpeg but f...cked it up ! :)

yes 733 Nm ...can you imagine !! There will be chunks of road chucked up into the air as you go by :D

my turbo is about 550 - 600 and that sets my eyeballs into back of my skull ....cant imagine what thi sconversion and that old shape M6 we are doinf]g will be like ...

One thing pisses me off ....my 550 Nm sig will seem well pansy after your cars :( 20 psi here I come :D any of you with powerful telescopes out there ...keep an eye out for my pistons will you please :p

also can i just say ...its 11 pm and i am still gettinf replies from you lot .....TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS ..THIS IS MY JOB WHATS YOUR EXCUSE !!! :o

haha, yeah man!! [jam 550-600 turbo.. thats interesting, any specs/info on that?

see if we can ask greenwich labortory to lookout for low flying pistons! :D

midnite haha, thats the time evotechink forum comes alive! hahah :eek:
i got work in the morning @8am too..bugger, this moddin life is too addictive..need me next fix.. sniff snort..sniff... [bang

[Tin]

one pic of the install (area to the right has changed alittle).. not the best pic in the world, but at least its something ;)

http://premium1.uploadit.org/dmcdmc//M5-Rickard-012.JPG

Rotrex chargers, most likely mounted in the same area as the AA tuning kit.. but one think I've noticed, is the brake duct cooling will need to be removed for the charger location... dependant on where the intercoolers are mounted, possibly behind the foglights, then the brake ducting isn't viable anymore... [hmm seems a couple of sacrifices might have to be made :( :confused:

[kam32oi Cab]

im happy for you Tin! ur having a field day, all your birthdays and vaisakhi's have come inn one day!

[Tin]

cheers kam, will see how the finished production kit goes.

CA's gonna get raided by a group of M5's on sat! [ok this particular kit has stirred alot of interest from m5 owners.. [jam

[kam32oi Cab]

tin wats the power output/stats of your car mate?

[Tin]

as it is at the moment, roughly 450bhp with 550Nm torque..wanna get a dyno done here in the uk.. those are kelleners figures.

[CA Automotive UK]

the DEMO M5 Twin S/C is on the road :-) !!!

Premier this Saturday at a BMW meet abroad.

Needs refinement of the ECU mapping, and Pulley resizing - (pushing over 1 bar now) - NOT HEALTHY ....

Photos & some Video will be posted at the weekend hopefully

Also need to fit a wideband lambda and exhaust-temp before next week - then Dyno-time, more video from that of course. :-)



getting closer .......

[lee330sport]

1 bar............holyshit:D

[CA Automotive UK]

HOT off the press guys .........

[Afif]

1 bar............holyshit:D

which means [hmm?

[CA Automotive UK]

1 bar = 14.47 psi :)

[Tin]

cool, thanks roy, can't wait to see some vids/pics of the prototype car! [ok

[Afif]

1 bar = 14.47 psi :)

ahh i get it now, thanks :cool: [bow

[lee330sport]

Install looks tidy from the pics, neat way to hide the coolers. Wouldnt want to run 1 bar without internal work though:eek:. Whats the standard kit 8psi?

[CA Automotive UK]

6 - 8 psi ...final boost level will be decided during testing at the Ring next week ;)

[444bhp Ray]

HI

Also to let you know we are working on a warantee scheme to go with the M5 conversion , hope to have this sorted by next week .

Also , I have a 50 000 mile M5 engine and g box for sale , around £ 8 k , anyone interested ?

Roy can you pm me how much M5 engine and is SMG ok for a conversion,as i do love my SMG thanks Ray. :)

[lee330sport]

Ray, M3 SMG gearbox wont bolt upto the M5 lump. The conversion will run you easily into 15k. I was gonna go for it but its cheaper to Supercharge your M;)

[CA Automotive UK]

unfortunately the M5 engine is no longer available .

here is a brief history of why , see what you think ..

1. we commissioned another company ( nameless for now ) to buy the engine for us for a project car .Engine was £8500 , of which we paid £6700 immediately , rest on collection or installation
2. customer changed his mind and wanted different engine , so we told company X this , they agreed to sell it on , on our behalf , and refund us .if not we could pay balance and take the engine . Thats why we advertised it also
3. Did not hear back from Company X for months about the sale , would leave messages and only occasioanly get replies .
4. Finally spoke a few weeks ago , and we were told engine was sold now and we would have our money orthe engine back within 2 weeks .

6. weeks later we still have not been able to get in touch with Company X , despite leaving a message , text or email EVERY SECOND DAY .
7 . So we sent registerd letter saying we were coming up there to collect engine or money . Funnily enough we got a call back next day from vendor .....at which time he basically said that he had sold engine and used up the money , but we were not getting anything back because our £6700 payment was nowo suddenly a DEPOSIT and as we had not paid balance we had LOST IT ALL !!!! This despite me and a member of staff both having spoke to him previously to confirm we would get engine or money back . At no time previously were we told that the payment was a deposit or that if we did not collect engine / pay balance we would lose our payment !
8 . You can imagine our response ....so it is going to court or debt collectors .
9 . I really trusted this guy and thought he was sound ...now you tell me if I am overreacting or if have been SHAFTED FROM BEHIND WITH NO LUBRICANT !
10 I have since found out this company is in financial trouble , and that the partner has left because he did not agree with the way it was being run etc etc .


THE moral of this tale is DONT TRUST ANY F..KER NO MATTER HOW NICE THEY SEEM OR WHAT THEY SAY . AT MY AGE I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER :)

[lee330sport]

:eek: Kin hell mate.

How somebody has the cheek to say that is beyond me.

You got a reciept or something to say that you payed the £6700?

[CA Automotive UK]

he seems to think I dont have receipt ...but I do .

He actually said to me " you dont have any paperwork do you ? So there is nothing you can do ! "

never mind the fact I trusted him and we had an agreement ..!!

[Tin]

damn.. that is well out of order mate... if the companies in financial trouble... going via the court route might not be worthwhile... go the other route dude, 95% success rate in most cases ;)

[CA Automotive UK]

my thoughts exactly.....

by the way Tin , would youbelieve we are STILL trying to get to base one with the bloodywarantee company vis a vis bi compressor warantee for M5 ??!!

Its like they dont want business or something ....we are persevering

[Tin]

my thoughts exactly.....

by the way Tin , would youbelieve we are STILL trying to get to base one with the bloodywarantee company vis a vis bi compressor warantee for M5 ??!!

Its like they dont want business or something ....we are persevering

damn... thats just plain stupid... how about folks like the RAC or AA? they provide warranties.. most likely outsourced, or perhaps the same guys that do the bmw extended warranty... (some travel company based in europe, i think)....