Original, 2nd Gen, and Enhanced Next Gen CCFL Fitted Pictures [Archive]

mysticm3

31-03-2005, 10:19 PM

First of all, please do not copy and distribute any of these pictures any where else.
Original True HID Colour 8500k SSDD CCFL Angel Eyes:
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/craig.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/Install10.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/Install12.JPG
Universal for most BMW models such as E30, E34, E36, E39, E46, E38. Original and still my personal favourite, matches my 8000k HID perfectly. Easy to fit and represent the best value for money.

mysticm3

31-03-2005, 10:24 PM

Next Generation CCFL 8500k Icy Blue Colour (no longer available in white colour as seen in pics below):

Comparison Shots:
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/nextgenoriginal.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/nextgenoriginal2.JPG

Fitted:
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/nextgen3.JPG

Larger rings, cut/groove marks on plastic protector rings. Detachable mounting clips. Colour is just like 1st gen.

mysticm3

31-03-2005, 10:27 PM

Enhanced Next Generation CCFL 7500k 'Pure White' Colour:

http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/Resizeofxenon2.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/Resizeofxenon5.jpg

Enhanced version has larger rings and groove marks compared to the original kit, silver backing or the so-called 'tape mod' to reduce reflection.

This kit is also available for 2003~ facelift E46 coupe and convertible, and for E39 5 series with original BMW angel eye rings.
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/ResizeofPhoto-0075.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm32/CCFL/ResizeofResizeofDSCN2134.JPG

Durgesh

31-03-2005, 10:28 PM

Too Little a difference I think, Teddy your right... stick with the old ones.

Durgesh

mysticm3

31-03-2005, 10:31 PM

Differences are mainly in the colour and the groove marks, you've got to see them in person to really see the differences. I personally prefer the original kit with 'clear protector ring' as they are less visible when off.

Afif

31-03-2005, 10:37 PM

you forgot to mention those original kit pictures in the first post have the tape mod done to them [cool. Original still me fav aswell :D. Can you use the new inverters on them?

Two_Stripes

01-04-2005, 09:10 PM

To really get a comparison of the colour difference think need to see the new types at night.

Shuriken

02-04-2005, 09:12 AM

They both look good just personal preference I think. I can imagine some E46ers would be interested on getting their hands on just the new inverters (whilst keeping their current rings) to stop the warning light issue. Is that possible Teddy? Just a thought for others.. :)

Shuriken.

mysticm3

02-04-2005, 10:33 AM

the reworked inverters are not compatible with the first and second kits unfortunately. I'll try to see if I can make them fit. There is no light warning issue on the first and second kit though.

InvIs Inc

02-04-2005, 10:49 PM

teddy u kno the new gen ones have a silver backing, is that to kinda 2 save doing a eyeball mod thingy mebobber? if so can that be mixed with the first gen?

mysticm3

03-04-2005, 08:07 PM

only the enhanced ones have silver backings the first 2 (original and next gen) do not have silver backings. The wiring looms on the enhanced kit cannot be mixed with the first 2 kits as it's got a reworked inverter.

mysticm3

04-04-2005, 10:15 AM

Kit for Facelift E46 coupe and convertible is now in stock! [ok

lee330sport

04-04-2005, 10:31 AM

pm sent [banana [banana [banana

mysticm3

05-04-2005, 10:19 PM

Enhanced Next Gen CCFL 7500k with silver backing:
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm3/CCFL/enhanced11.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm3/CCFL/enhanced22.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm3/CCFL/enhanced55.jpg
http://usera.imagecave.com/mysticm3/CCFL/enhanced66.jpg

installation took like 45 minutes I think lol I am getting better on this [hiya

Nickleback

09-04-2005, 06:01 AM

I'm watching this thread

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Clubsport/NewCCFLNightZenonNoPlate.jpg

:p

richbe

18-04-2005, 11:21 AM

I've been on BMW car for a while, but feel its is time to add another forum to the list!

I haven't yet done any mods to my car. But there are a few things I fancy, CCFLs being one of them. I'm thinking of the latest versions, as I am not too bothered about being able to see them in the day more than the original ones and I like the idea of lenses being free from reflections.

However I don't have Xenons at the moment and want to change the light units to them at some point. I take it the CCFLs come out as easily as they went in and I will be able to move them onto the next lights?

peppernick

18-04-2005, 01:37 PM

However I don't have Xenons at the moment and want to change the light units to them at some point. I take it the CCFLs come out as easily as they went in and I will be able to move them onto the next lights?
Welcome [hiya

If you go down the OEM xenon unit route, then you can most definitely transfer the CCFLs. Some aftermarket units come with halos as stnadard and you may encounter mounting difficulties in those.

richbe

18-04-2005, 01:43 PM

I was going to try and source some second hand ones from breakers, so they will be OEM. Not sure how easy that would be to get them. I assume enough people write off their E46 and don't damage the light units such that some come up everynow and again...

lee330sport

18-04-2005, 01:58 PM

Welcome [hiya

Another Northern member [banana [banana Getting busy up here.lol

Theres quite a few BMW breakers around so you maybe in luck. No idea what they charger though. Why not try aftermarket conversion, its usually cheaper.
CA automotive are your best bet.

richbe

18-04-2005, 02:08 PM

do the aftermarket ones look the same as OEM, and as Peppernick said might that not cause a problem with the CCFLs?

richbe

18-04-2005, 04:08 PM

Ok, first mod, I think I am going to have to get some. I think I'll go for some of the enhanced next generation versions.

Then the list runs-
18 or 19" CSL offset reps (as per BMW car forum thread) - not yet decided on size
CAI kit
M3 electric folding mirrors
eibach springs, dropped depending on which wheels
xenons

oooh! and I'll think of more

oh yeah, and perhaps a few months down the line I really fancy S/C'in :D

oh and I need a cd mulitplayer but am investigating MP3 possibilities, maybe an ipod connection or something, but it needs to be tidy and I think I'd prefer something that links to the steering wheel controls and on screen display.

Why this new found enthusiasm. I got a job offer today, so I might just have some more wonga to play with.

mysticm3

18-04-2005, 04:10 PM

The enhanced version comes in different fitments for cars with or without xenons so if you buy a kit for non xenon they are not transferrable to your new lights. Our 1st and 2nd Gen CCFL are fully comptaible with cars with or without xenon though. They are just as good as the enhanced ones except they don't have the silver backings.

richbe

18-04-2005, 08:39 PM

hmm, ok, so do the original and next gen versions now come with a reworked inverter to deal with the dash warning light, or would I still need to get that sorted? (I assume I stick a resistor in the circuit somewhere?)

mysticm3

18-04-2005, 10:09 PM

There is never a dashboard light warning issue (don't know where you get it from), with our kit you should never get dashboard warning light. The new trick is to insert the wires from halo boxes straight into the sidelight base, it appears that the rings have the same level fo resistance as the original sidelight bulbs.

richbe

18-04-2005, 10:34 PM

I was reading the issues that some of the guys were having on the BMW Car forum when they first started fitting them last year. Some were having to leave the side light bulbs hanging in the engine bay in sequence with the CCFLs in order to stop either the indicator lights going on or from warning lights showing on the dash. But you have answered my question which indicates that they do offer the same resistance as the side light bulbs and the bulbs can be removed altogether - much cleaner.

So I'd like to order the original ones and I'll do the tape mod on them.

What should I do go via your SSDD website or PM you on here?

Afif

18-04-2005, 10:48 PM

think you miss understood a little bit. The original ones you have to leave your sidelight hanging in the engine bay. Its the Enhanced next gen that your after [ok.

mysticm3

19-04-2005, 08:33 AM

think you miss understood a little bit. The original ones you have to leave your sidelight hanging in the engine bay. [ok.
not necessarily. The trick work on both 1st gen and 2nd gen angel eyes :) :)

Afif

19-04-2005, 12:58 PM

now you confused me teddy.

lee330sport

19-04-2005, 01:16 PM

richbe

19-04-2005, 02:34 PM

Where abouts are you Lee? PM me if you wish, I am in south Manchester. What stage S/C is your car? I think I would only do the 1st, I might be ending up with a litle more to spend but don't want to go more than that.

richbe

20-04-2005, 10:15 AM

Ordered a set of originals :D

Gonna be under the bonnet as soon as they turn up!

mysticm3

20-04-2005, 11:23 PM

should be with you shortly mate any problem give me a call or e-mail/pm me! :)

richbe

22-04-2005, 01:27 PM

angel eyes on :D

looking good. Still getting side light warning tho.

Teddy two questions- when you said in a previous post that you wired the halos into the side light base, and by that I think you mean the small bracket in which the bulb sits, not the wired bracket attached to the loom. If I am right, how do you get the wires to make a good permanent contact with the metal clips inside? I guess there must be some added resistance within this middle bracket that prevents the dash light from coming on...?

The alternative is to wire in two small resistors to increase ever so slightly current draw and thus extinguish the dash lights that way, question is what resistor do I need? And am I thinking right that this is a possible solution.

Aside from that, thanks for quick delivery. I might send a couple of suggestions to add to the instructions to help people who are taking their lights out for the first time. Once you know how its easy, but there were a couple of wrestling (gentle) matchs required to remove some of the parts until I realised the easy way :rolleyes:

amo

15-09-2005, 11:13 PM

I think i'll be ordering some of these as soon as i've woken up properly after a good kip! Was either these or a GPS receiver ;)

If anyone has any good walkthroughs or tips as to how to install the first gens then please feel free to post it here or pm me :)

God knows im gonna need some help!!!

mysticm3

16-09-2005, 01:13 PM

Amo you have e-mail

big pimp

28-09-2005, 05:53 PM

peppernick

28-09-2005, 06:40 PM

The CCFLs fits all cars with and without xenon. The Gen 1 CCFLs are bluer and the Gen 2 matches the OEM xenon hue better. Alos, the Gen 2 comes with an opague rear backing so you don't get the reflection of the halo rings off the light reflector, giving more defined halo rings. With the Gen 1, you need to tape the back of the rings if you want this effect.

Welcome [cool Get them in the UK, no need to take the risk if importing the same tried and tested products are available here.

Nickleback

28-09-2005, 07:48 PM

hi guys,

new member, and very new to all of this.

i am driving a 02 330Ci - just got it last week, and i'm very interested in getting these Halo kits. i had looked into the Jlevi one from the states, but then i seen the post that eventually took me here!

i would appreciate any / all help i can get!

my car has xenons fitted as standard, so i'm after the correct halo's to work with these - i was looking at the user "Nickleback" sig, and his car seems to be the ticket! - he is using enhanced 2nd gen ones - is this correct?

i also like his front indicators - they look all black to match with his headlights... are these available from SSDD also?

sorry for the long winded post, but like i say, i would love to get this simple but effective mod done asap!

thanks again,

Ross

Hi Ross & welcome [hiya

You are quite correct, I am using 2nd gen CCFL's supplied by Teddy @ SSDD-Motorsport. :D
The front projector indicators are clear to match the xenons to give the clear front look. Try Teddy again for these if he has got them in stock, if not I got mine from CA Automotive (Roy) our other sponsor on Evotechnik. :D
Here's a few more pics to get you really wound up :cool:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Clubsport/ACSFrontWillowTreeClose.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Clubsport/Frontviewlightson.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Clubsport/NewCCFLOnNight.jpg

:D :D :D :D :D :D

big pimp

29-09-2005, 09:35 AM

hi guys - thanks very much for the welcome.

i think i know the first couple of things i'm for doing to my car!!!

now, where is Teddy, to i see about getting these exact ones ordered up!

Two_Stripes

29-09-2005, 12:32 PM

Right, been looking into these for a while but totally confused by this thread, seems to have got mixed in the last few posts as well. Original posts Teddy says theres:
Original
Next Generation
Enhanced Next Generation.

I'm with big pimp on this, I like the look of nicklebacks CCFLs. He asked if they were enhanced 2nd generation (i.e. enhanced next generation) and NIck and Nickleback replied saying yep 2nd generation - are they next generation or enhanced next generation.

Could someone just clear up once and for all what each type is/does, ie answer the following points for each type:

Type: Original/next gereration/enhanced next generation
Colour:8500k/6500k/7500k
Silver backed: Yes/No
Do you have to keep original bulb in holder inside engine bay: Yes/No
Sets off dash warning light: Yes/No
Compatable with OEM xenons: Yes/No
Forum Price:

Two_Stripes

29-09-2005, 12:36 PM

PS - Read about some wiring loom you install with the lights for remote fade/activation - how does this work?

big pimp

29-09-2005, 02:11 PM

come on - where is Teddy?!!?

i want to get these ASAP!

big pimp

29-09-2005, 02:42 PM

just went on the SSDD website and got mine ordered up! cannot wait for these now!

peppernick

29-09-2005, 07:31 PM

PS - Read about some wiring loom you install with the lights for remote fade/activation - how does this work?
Check HERE (http://forum.evotechnik.net/showthread.php?t=2188&highlight=ccfl+remote)

Two_Stripes

29-09-2005, 10:12 PM

Cheers Nick, Just found it earlier.

Would like to know about some of these though, thinking might just go for the enhanced ones (why not?) but am interested in points I raised above, can I take the bulbs out, does it set off the dash warning light etc.

Two_Stripes

05-10-2005, 03:20 PM

Just putting this top for link from another thread.

mysticm3

05-10-2005, 04:06 PM

two stripe you can remove the sidelight bulbs with the enhanced 2nd gen kit - their transformers have a built in resistor.

Two_Stripes

05-10-2005, 05:15 PM

Thanks Teddy, will get 'em in asap when they arrive.

330ci Convertible

07-10-2005, 02:06 PM

Got enhanced 2nd generation ones on order, just want to say a big thank you for all your help Teddy, top man [ok [ok

simpleton

11-11-2005, 11:13 AM

i'm sure u guys have answered this question on many occasions already but how is the tape mod done and does it make a big difference? [bang instructions on carrying it out on 1st gen ccfls would be very helpful and perhaps pictures before and after so i can ascertain whether or not to carry it out. thanks guys :D

finnie

29-08-2006, 07:39 PM

SO

I want the whiter look but do I get the normal or enhance 2nd gens.

I have a 2001 M3 with xenons

Help!!

Chaos

29-08-2006, 07:58 PM

Whiter = 2nd gen, period. The enhanced is just the tape mod done for you, which reduces reflection in the main beam unit from the back of the halo. Whether that bothers you or not only you can answer. :) Then get some 5-6k bulbs to match the look of the halos, Teddy can supply both.

finnie

29-08-2006, 08:38 PM

Does the enhanced fit the non facelift Xenon lights??? That way no hanging sidelight bulb and also has the backing?? Is this right??

finnie

29-08-2006, 08:40 PM

Oh sorry just checked the site again

finnie

29-08-2006, 08:53 PM

BTW pics not working at start of post

mysticm3

30-08-2006, 09:18 AM

sorry will upload pictures again

by the way the normal 2nd gen are now available in the icy blue colour (just like 1st gen)

finnie

30-08-2006, 09:38 AM

ah now even more confused

mysticm3

30-08-2006, 10:08 AM

pictures now fixed

blood

15-11-2006, 01:45 PM

:) V.interested in ordering some ccfl`s for my 330D ,have PM`d Teddy. Going by info that's available dosnt look too much of an evolution to fit.
Fingers crossed!:)

mysticm3

15-11-2006, 05:10 PM

not difficult at all mate even a facelift coupe :D

Doug_fire

12-06-2007, 01:00 PM

This being my first ever mod and having just read this post from start to finish, my head's in a spin. So, someone help me please. If I want no reflections, and I don't have Xenons, I don't want warning lights, and want a light that looks totally natural. What type am I looking to buy? Please please help this newbie.

Ok, pleading over, getting up of knees.

mysticm3

12-06-2007, 01:09 PM

the enhanced 2nd gen kit has silver backings to reduce the reflection inside the headlight housing for a more crispy/defined look of the angel eyes.

I'll be away from 3pm tomorrow if you order today I should be able to get them out tomorrow morning for you

pete323

18-07-2007, 10:25 AM

2nd Generation Enhanced

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/pedro66photos/6.ccflsonatnight.jpg

Kal

09-11-2007, 04:17 PM

Hi there newbie here.. can someone tell me if anyone has had their angels fitted on a facelift couple and if they look like horse shoe type.i,e can u see the gaps? Is it worth doing? any pics?

thanks guys

mysticm3

09-11-2007, 05:39 PM

welcome to the forum.

fitting angel eyes to facelift coupe is a bit more involving, you need to remove the headlights, use a heatgun to split open the lenses, then fit the rings inside. we can offer this service if required but DIY is also possible as a very detailed guide is provided with the kit.

as far as technology goes, it is not possible to make a 100% cicular ring at the moment. there needs to be a place where wires can come out and there will always be a gap. We have designed a metal plate to cover this area - pictures below:

http://www.ssdd-motorsport.com/images/products/238-3.pjpeg
http://www.ssdd-motorsport.com/images/products/238-2.pjpeg
more details here:
http://www.ssdd-motorsport.com/show_prod.php?prod_id=238

if you need more clear pictures feel free to send me an e-mail and I'll forward higher res ones to you.

thanks